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scootertrog

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:22 pm

Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 1143 Location: SW Missouri

The nice part about the Super 9 is it's size. It's a very comfortable ride, with great brakes. At 220 pounds stock, it's overbuilt and thus holds up well over time. Very Happy

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StepVino

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:59 am

Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 1655 Location: Houston, TX

Areomyst wrote:

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I've decided that once I have turned the base of the cylinder I'm going to leave the timings alone (should be plenty high for now) until I find an exhaust pipe solution. For the time being I'm going to have to run something less than ideal for the exhaust... I'm basically going to wait for the right deal to come along on a high-end Mina exhaust.

~Josh

I've been wondering if putting together pieces from different
(cheap) pipes might work out well. For example wait for a cheap
Leo Vince with a nice fat belly Smile

, then chop the header off and
and use the header from some stock pipe that isn't worth much either.
Was looking at stock KTM pipes on ebay.. looked like some of the
headers might work nicely. Can't remember specifically.. maybe it
was 65 or 80cc.

smead

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:52 pm

Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 219 Location: San Antonio,TX

how is the engine enamel holding up with the engine cause im planning on using it for mine.

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Areomyst

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:29 pm

Site Admin Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Posts: 3085 Location: Haw River, NC United States of America!

smead wrote:

how is the engine enamel holding up with the engine cause im planning on using it for mine.

I don't expect that it will hold up too well. Next rebuild, I'm going to powdercoat the whole block. That was my original plan, but I wasn't able to do it at the time. As is, some of the paint is chipping off and I'm not even running the engine. Just taking it down off the shelf to show someone and so forth. We'll see though. It'll have to do for now.

I got some new parts in for the bike, but haven't had a chance to do anything further with it. I hope that I can do some work on the scooter before March, because that's when business will pick up very heavy again and there will be no chance to get my plans with this thing in gear.

New parts:
Stage 6 SSP choke cable
Stage 6 PWK choke adapter
Str8 intake bell mouth

I decided to ditch the K&N filter and go with the bell mouth. If I end up riding on the street I may put the filter on, but the performance of the bell mouth should be better than the filter with the correct jetting, even if it's not a difference I can really feel. It also looks better. Smile

~Josh

smead

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:21 pm

Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 219 Location: San Antonio,TX

i heard your not supposed to use powder coat on engine blocks because the other way to remove powder coat besides chemically is to heat it over its curing temperature. mine left a chalky feeling on it but once i put the clear coat on it it seemed more durable.

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Areomyst

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:35 pm

Site Admin Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Posts: 3085 Location: Haw River, NC United States of America!

People powdercoat engine blocks all the time. In fact, some cylinders even come powdercoated. High-Gain's SR50 engines are powdercoated. I don't think that either one of us is going to want to remove such a nice finish. It's much better than the stock look, and much much easier to clean. My cylinder head and carb are powdercoated. When I get a larger oven to put parts in, my engine block and wheels will be coated as well. Smile

Just curious, where did you hear that powdercoating was a bad idea on engine blocks?

All the best,

~Josh

smead

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:53 pm

Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 219 Location: San Antonio,TX

when i was searching the internet on info about powder coating back when i had money and a job to pay for that kind of stuff. but now i figure i can spend the $5 one in a while to keep my engine white rather than the $100 for a powder coating gun

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Areomyst

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:15 pm

Site Admin Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Posts: 3085 Location: Haw River, NC United States of America!

Haven't made any progress on my scooter, but I did get a few more parts for it. I'm going to use the Motoforce clear coolant line too.

Here's a sneak shot:

I like the look of the bellmouth much better. I don't plan on riding this engine on the street much anyway. I've got all kinds of ideas and plans, but for now I'll refrain from posting them.

Also, I sold my lathe. It was becoming quite a money pit, and I still didn't have anything usable. I did make a fixture for holding my cylinders though, and I'll use the lathe at the school, or my friend's shop to turn down the base of the cylinder to get those transfers tamed.

I wish I had a real update for you guys. Soon though. Worry not. Smile

~Josh

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zombie

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:06 pm

Joined: 08 Oct 2009 Posts: 397 Location: N.W. Florida

If Pride is a sin, (as us Catholics like to spurt) I know where I will meet you! Just don't know quite when. It's beautiful man. Are you planing on keeping it for awhile? It would sure look nice sitting on a showroom counter (when finished) with an $8'000 price tag on the bars. If you fish long enough, someone will bite! If you want to respray the cases, use Awl Grip Epoxy primer, and you do not have to top coat. It is a semi gloss finish, and fuel proof. You just about have to Jack Hammer it off. If you mix carefully 1 gallon will spray 20- 30 engines, and pay for itself. There is no visible difference between that, and powder coat. I can set you up with a supplier to talk to if you like. Generally 25% off list

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Mexicano

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:55 pm

Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 2108 Location: Mexico

I hesitate to tell You this because You said you liked your bell-mount on the carb...the rubber on the grill is a POS, It will crack in no time...It happened to mine in a few weeks...

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Areomyst

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:38 pm

Site Admin Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Posts: 3085 Location: Haw River, NC United States of America!

zombie wrote:

Thanks zombie. Smile

I think I'll be holding on to my Super 9 though, it won't be for sale like the ZX 50 was. Awl Grip huh? I'll have to look into that. My plan is to eventually be able to powder coat the block.

Ciao!

~Josh

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Areomyst

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:40 pm

Site Admin Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Posts: 3085 Location: Haw River, NC United States of America!

Mexicano wrote:

I hesitate to tell You this because You said you liked your bell-mount on the carb...the rubber on the grill is a POS, It will crack in no time...It happened to mine in a few weeks...

Damn, I hate to hear that. If it does crack, I'll figure out some alternative, or switch back to the K*N. I don't think the jetting will be very different between the two. It really does look a lot better with the bell mouth though. Fits the color scheme well, and my hope was that it would perform a little better.

I'm going to talk to my machinist friend tomorrow about using his lathe for my cylinder project. I'll report back.

~Josh

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Enviromoto

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:45 pm

Joined: 23 Feb 2009 Posts: 187 Location: Camby, IN.

Just read all 14 pages, WOW!

I really like how your taking your time to make sure everything is done right. The white paint really sets everything off but I would hate to be the person who has to clean it. Very Happy

Any plans for a radiator upgrade?

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smead

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:19 pm

Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 219 Location: San Antonio,TX

if you didnt already strip that engine enamel off, do it now. it is in no way gas resistant even with the clear. i went to go look at my jet and there was still gas in the bowl, now there is a line were the gas ate through my clear coat. try powder coat that is listed as fuel resistant

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Areomyst

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:30 pm

Site Admin Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Posts: 3085 Location: Haw River, NC United States of America!

Enviromoto wrote:

Any plans for a radiator upgrade?

Thanks man. Cleaning the painted surfaces should be easier than cleaning the bare metal, but white sure does show everything huh? That's okay though, I don't think I'll mind much. Smile

As for the radiator, I think the stock radiator will be more than enough. I've run several cast-iron cylinders on these engines, and never had any problems.

~Josh

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