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Timmy
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:10 pm Reply with quote
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Hey flo welcome to scooter invasion.That pia zip looks very good very strong for the streets. I saw your youtube video and man you got a good scoot very strong indeed. Smile

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Pia-Blaster
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:28 pm Reply with quote
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Hi,
a fwe minutes ago i sold my old stage6 sport cilindre in ebay...74 Euro...its okay....
when i can hold the money in my hands i will send it to my porting man, the new racing cilindre is ready in 3 weeks.....
till then i have to buy a cooler and have to bild on a minarelli waterpump.

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rydah
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:19 am Reply with quote
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124 kmh on a 70cc kit now that is really hard to believe. let alone 70cc pushing 40 percent taller gears.[/quote]

70cc scooters can do much more then 124kmh. i know plenny 70cc minarellis that can do 85mph plus and these are bikes that are used on the streets.

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zombie
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:58 am Reply with quote
Joined: 08 Oct 2009 Posts: 397 Location: N.W. Florida
From MY experience you do need ALL 4 STUDS to seal the case. The boost port mod is good, and if there is enough "meat" to hold a stud all the better. I am just trying to learn from someone willing to share . The ZIP is a wheelie machine waiting to happen, and my real passion is 50cc screamers. Maybe you have a SECRET? Keep posting Bro! I just used a conversion program that says 124kph =77.05003mph. with 40% gears that HAS to be on a decline...

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Pia-Blaster
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:02 am Reply with quote
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Hello,

i already said that you need all 4 studs, it was only my test engine for porting trys.....you cant use this engine anymore!

Secret`? There is no secret.

Decline? Sry but i cant understand every word an my transaltion machine translated me something that make no sense, pls sai it in other words.

And my Piaggio case is not modified,its original!!!

And i just want to say that it is nice to hear something from all of you!



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Pia-Blaster
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:25 am Reply with quote
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And i forgot something to say, the new gears are 40% longer than the original gears!
With my engine and the original gear i was able to drive 80 kmh, it was very short .

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Areomyst
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:57 am Reply with quote
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zombie wrote:
From MY experience you do need ALL 4 STUDS to seal the case. The boost port mod is good, and if there is enough "meat" to hold a stud all the better. I am just trying to learn from someone willing to share . The ZIP is a wheelie machine waiting to happen, and my real passion is 50cc screamers. Maybe you have a SECRET? Keep posting Bro! I just used a conversion program that says 124kph =77.05003mph. with 40% gears that HAS to be on a decline...


Yes, I wouldn't build an engine without using all 4 studs. I'm nearly certain that if you pressure tested that engine it would exhibit a leak at the base where the bolt is missing.

77 mph is entirely possible out of a 70cc build. Smile

Project looks good Pia-Blaster, thanks for sharing so far! Looking forward to more. Very Happy

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Pia-Blaster
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:21 am Reply with quote
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Of course its possible in know.....i drive it =)

im waiting for my new cilindre which is al mot more powefull than my old sport. at summer i will buy a new exhaust, a mhr team exhaust which will be the perfect exhaust for this clindre.
But there is one disadvantage, i have to change the piston rings every 6 hours, the piston every 20 hours....but thats ok for this power.
And i will buy a 24mm carburator, the 19mm is too small.

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zombie
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:41 pm Reply with quote
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I got lost reading the thread. I thought the case shown was the case being used. Sorry about the side slide...

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rydah
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:47 pm Reply with quote
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Pia-Blaster wrote:
Of course its possible in know.....i drive it =)

im waiting for my new cilindre which is al mot more powefull than my old sport. at summer i will buy a new exhaust, a mhr team exhaust which will be the perfect exhaust for this clindre.
But there is one disadvantage, i have to change the piston rings every 6 hours, the piston every 20 hours....but thats ok for this power.
And i will buy a 24mm carburator, the 19mm is too small.

how come you have to change rings so much and pistons so much. i've seen plenny race bikes that didnt change rings and piston that much.

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Pia-Blaster
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:54 am Reply with quote
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Because this cilindre is not out of aluminium and it will loose power after this 6 hours. I can defenetly drive them more than 6 hours, but i want a strong engine and i dont want to risk to damage the cilindre.

I do not use it anymore for street, its more an racing scooter....

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Pia-Blaster
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:42 am Reply with quote
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Hi @ all!

The costumer-engine is ready with the ordinary porting and new crankshaft and C4 bearings:

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mikal
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:21 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Posts: 832 Location: Muskegon, MI
In the States we have the SR50 with Piaggio motor. It only comes with
fuel injection, carbureted is not available. With the use of the Malossi
digitronic conversion kit, a carb is now available for use. I've done this
with excellent success. I'm very happy with my TP Due Plus 70cc, and
21mm Dellorto black. I use stock gears though, so wheelies are possible,
and top speed is in the range of 60-65MPH.

Welcome to the boards.

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Pia-Blaster
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:40 am Reply with quote
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Hi @ all!

My new cilinder will be finished this week,looks awesome.





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rydah
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:56 pm Reply with quote
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mikal wrote:
In the States we have the SR50 with Piaggio motor. It only comes with
fuel injection, carbureted is not available. With the use of the Malossi
digitronic conversion kit, a carb is now available for use. I've done this
with excellent success. I'm very happy with my TP Due Plus 70cc, and
21mm Dellorto black. I use stock gears though, so wheelies are possible,
and top speed is in the range of 60-65MPH.

Welcome to the boards.

piaggio motors become pretty fast with just minor mods. my typhoon with only the cheapest MK bore ($125) and the cheapest leo pipe ($100) i can get 55mph to 65mph. it just depends on how much wind. typhoons are the cheapest scooters in the U.S. with piaggio engines, the sticker price was less then $1500.00

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